Comments on: Ethics for the Real World by Howard and Korver – Making Better Personal Ethical Decisions for Work and Life http://www.wilfridwong.com/2008/07/21/ethics-for-the-real-world-by-howard-and-korver-making-better-personal-ethics-decisions-for-work-and-life/ Where Good Things Are Meant To Be Shared Sun, 14 Mar 2010 01:39:39 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: wilfrid http://www.wilfridwong.com/2008/07/21/ethics-for-the-real-world-by-howard-and-korver-making-better-personal-ethics-decisions-for-work-and-life/comment-page-1/#comment-12280 wilfrid Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:58:00 +0000 http://www.wilfridwong.com/?p=1537#comment-12280 Stockresearch52 - I am afraid there isn't. Lies take away opportunities to build relationship, white or not white. Thanks for dropping by. Stockresearch52 – I am afraid there isn’t. Lies take away opportunities to build relationship, white or not white. Thanks for dropping by.

]]> By: stockresearch52 http://www.wilfridwong.com/2008/07/21/ethics-for-the-real-world-by-howard-and-korver-making-better-personal-ethics-decisions-for-work-and-life/comment-page-1/#comment-12234 stockresearch52 Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:49:45 +0000 http://www.wilfridwong.com/?p=1537#comment-12234 Great reading. I would like to know whether lies have ethics? Great reading. I would like to know whether lies have ethics?

]]> By: My 3rd Blogger Book Review at McGraw-Hill Education / Would You Like Me to (White) Lie to You? http://www.wilfridwong.com/2008/07/21/ethics-for-the-real-world-by-howard-and-korver-making-better-personal-ethics-decisions-for-work-and-life/comment-page-1/#comment-6930 My 3rd Blogger Book Review at McGraw-Hill Education / Would You Like Me to (White) Lie to You? Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:19:17 +0000 http://www.wilfridwong.com/?p=1537#comment-6930 [...] after I have written the review for that book on ethics, I can’t help but to talk to the people around me on what I’ve learned (I do practice [...]

[...] after I have written the review for that book on ethics, I can’t help but to talk to the people around me on what I’ve learned (I do practice [...]

]]> By: wilfrid http://www.wilfridwong.com/2008/07/21/ethics-for-the-real-world-by-howard-and-korver-making-better-personal-ethics-decisions-for-work-and-life/comment-page-1/#comment-4629 wilfrid Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:49:23 +0000 http://www.wilfridwong.com/?p=1537#comment-4629 Lora - I can give you more thoughts offline. First, an ethical code is a personal code and we can't use it to criticize others using our own standards. Second, if a person is in your personal viewpoint unethical at work, there are two options you have. <b>Option 1:</b> If the person is your boss and he or she is here to stay, you should consider finding another better environment. <b>Option 2:</b> If the person is your peer or your subordinate, you should consider the path of escalation and bringing in neutral party to mediate. Lora – I can give you more thoughts offline. First, an ethical code is a personal code and we can’t use it to criticize others using our own standards. Second, if a person is in your personal viewpoint unethical at work, there are two options you have.

Option 1: If the person is your boss and he or she is here to stay, you should consider finding another better environment.

Option 2: If the person is your peer or your subordinate, you should consider the path of escalation and bringing in neutral party to mediate.

]]> By: sislora http://www.wilfridwong.com/2008/07/21/ethics-for-the-real-world-by-howard-and-korver-making-better-personal-ethics-decisions-for-work-and-life/comment-page-1/#comment-4622 sislora Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:48:58 +0000 http://www.wilfridwong.com/?p=1537#comment-4622 Today I was so frustrated by one incident related to office politics... May be I can classified that as an 'unethical act' to her colleague (i.e. me)... :( I think this is a challenge to an ethical person. Facing some unethical people using legal but unethical means, I need to use an ethical means to handle them... Can relationship be less complicated? Can everyone just love one another so that all of us can live in harmony? Anyway, I am glad that my parents has taught us to be an ethical person since small. :) Today I was so frustrated by one incident related to office politics… May be I can classified that as an ‘unethical act’ to her colleague (i.e. me)… :(

I think this is a challenge to an ethical person. Facing some unethical people using legal but unethical means, I need to use an ethical means to handle them… Can relationship be less complicated? Can everyone just love one another so that all of us can live in harmony?

Anyway, I am glad that my parents has taught us to be an ethical person since small. :)

]]> By: wilfrid http://www.wilfridwong.com/2008/07/21/ethics-for-the-real-world-by-howard-and-korver-making-better-personal-ethics-decisions-for-work-and-life/comment-page-1/#comment-4611 wilfrid Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:27:23 +0000 http://www.wilfridwong.com/?p=1537#comment-4611 Tigerfish - Actually you are quite right in saying that. People do take the 'bullet' for the so-called 'greater good' in office. Do you think good ethical judgement comes with wisdom? Perhaps so. After all, the goods that we observe should eventually go into our ethical code ya? Just a thought. Tigerfish – Actually you are quite right in saying that. People do take the ‘bullet’ for the so-called ‘greater good’ in office.

Do you think good ethical judgement comes with wisdom? Perhaps so. After all, the goods that we observe should eventually go into our ethical code ya? Just a thought.

]]> By: tigerfish http://www.wilfridwong.com/2008/07/21/ethics-for-the-real-world-by-howard-and-korver-making-better-personal-ethics-decisions-for-work-and-life/comment-page-1/#comment-4610 tigerfish Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:23:55 +0000 http://www.wilfridwong.com/?p=1537#comment-4610 "...we kill if killing is for a ‘greater good’..." -sounds like something to justify office politics at work. Heh heh....well, I know this is just a snippet of the big picture <i>lah</i>! And I'm being too negative here by making a sweeping statement! Good ethics develop with a learning life experience. Hopefully, it grows good with age. “…we kill if killing is for a ‘greater good’…” -sounds like something to justify office politics at work. Heh heh….well, I know this is just a snippet of the big picture lah! And I’m being too negative here by making a sweeping statement!

Good ethics develop with a learning life experience. Hopefully, it grows good with age.

]]> By: wilfrid http://www.wilfridwong.com/2008/07/21/ethics-for-the-real-world-by-howard-and-korver-making-better-personal-ethics-decisions-for-work-and-life/comment-page-1/#comment-4608 wilfrid Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:08:48 +0000 http://www.wilfridwong.com/?p=1537#comment-4608 Ghim Seng - I am with you on that. In fact, the book illustrates examples after examples bringing in WWII situations to promote the idea that consequence-based action can be hard to 'justified' and we shall not take another life. But as in not killing for food, I think it is beyond the scope of the book for the time being :) Are you are Buddhist? Just curious. Ghim Seng – I am with you on that. In fact, the book illustrates examples after examples bringing in WWII situations to promote the idea that consequence-based action can be hard to ‘justified’ and we shall not take another life.

But as in not killing for food, I think it is beyond the scope of the book for the time being :)

Are you are Buddhist? Just curious.

]]> By: Tan Ghim Seng http://www.wilfridwong.com/2008/07/21/ethics-for-the-real-world-by-howard-and-korver-making-better-personal-ethics-decisions-for-work-and-life/comment-page-1/#comment-4603 Tan Ghim Seng Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:48:06 +0000 http://www.wilfridwong.com/?p=1537#comment-4603 In fact in Buddhism, the Buddha (an ordinary man though revered as an out-of-this-world, larger-than-life being) taught his disciples, "Kill the need to kill". This I think is a profound ethics, way back to more 2500 B.C ago and still valid in our modern society. Because we can't completely eradicate human desires (unless we end our lives), we have to live with it and do not kill lives (in this context for food, not human lives) unnecessarily. Though having said so, every doing ultimately brings its consequences. In fact in Buddhism, the Buddha (an ordinary man though revered as an out-of-this-world, larger-than-life being) taught his disciples, “Kill the need to kill”. This I think is a profound ethics, way back to more 2500 B.C ago and still valid in our modern society. Because we can’t completely eradicate human desires (unless we end our lives), we have to live with it and do not kill lives (in this context for food, not human lives) unnecessarily. Though having said so, every doing ultimately brings its consequences.

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